First off, the work I've done so far is the stuff I went to college to do. I didn't want to be an animator or an illustrator, even though I resigned myself and accepted that could very well be a possibility for me. I wanted to create art. Cartoon art. No, Contemporary Popular Culture Art. And all I have done up until this point is exactly what I wanted to do since I started learning how to draw.
Second, I take pride and have a level of self-confidence now that I didn't have before because of my work. Finally, I can talk about my personal interests on a college level and have been applying that interest into readings that are related through the suggestions of others. I wanted to bring the illustrated cartoon out of the kiddie sand box and into an arena of higher thinking. What surprises me even now is just how high a level I can get. Linking Mickey Mouse to Dadaism or being able to point out the hidden sexual jokes in a Saturday morning cartoon never made me feel this way. In fact, it used to make me feel pathetic. While I haven't achieved the level of "otaku" in feeling a prideful patheticness, at least I know now that knowledge can be applied in an academic arena.
Like I said, I'm still working on the other two.
As far as the situation goes, I was never given any indication that what I was doing was weak. Talking to Jack only indicated a failure to communicate my ideas through paper. When you think about it, that's the point of my thesis. Any community built on knowledge will have a failure in communicating these ideas to another community. That's why Murakami said he can't be an otaku and why otakus don't see what makes Murakami's work art when they can find the same characters and figurines buried at the bottom of potato chip bags. It's why some people see comic books as a place where men can draw big breasted women and not as a place of contemporary social commentary that was twice sponsored by the US Government in several public service campaigns. Dare I say, it is also why I believe that my department feels my thesis is weak while I and others I've explained it to feel the idea is a strong one. We can't communicate.
There's the rub. I can't make the lack of communication or understanding the point of my thesis by presenting a thesis paper nobody understands. I have to communicate this lack of communication in a way that makes my work look strong, which I feel it is. Doing so requires an entire rewrite of my paper... AGAIN. The suggestions about organization and commodity fetish do not apply as heavily as social reaction or even basic semiotics. More research is needed, but not in the sense of a different subject matter. Commodity fetish can relate to semiotics. After all, when humans become things through commodity fetish, those things become a signifier for the subculture which are read differently depending on who is viewing them. Not in the sense that what you read as "chair" may be read as "table" to another, but more along the lines of what you see as normal compared to abnormal. Though, in my thesis, it isn't the people so much as it is their actions and knowledge based on their personal interests.
If I communicated that idea clearly here, then please someone tell me! (Preferably Jason or Hugo. No offence Robert.) I don't expect anyone to understand what I just said, because that's the point of my thesis. Much like what makes Damien Hirst's floating shark art, I don't expect people outside of my nerdism to "get it." For all I know, they may see it as nothing but the usual angsty blog entry much like how someone would see the shark piece as just a gross display of a dead animal that is better suited for a science lab than an art gallery.
There's a quote from Murakami that I've been hanging on to since I started this thesis. He said it when he was comparing the art community and the otaku community in how exclusive and difficult it is to be accepted within it.
If you can't discuss its [art] history, you won't be taken seriously and you won't be accepted on their [the art world] turf.That's pretty much what I'm facing right now. I can't talk the talk, so they feel like I can't do the walk.
I feel I can, though. For the first time in recent memory, I feel confident in my thesis. No, I feel confident in me.
I just need to make my paper so clear the five-year-old across the street can understand it.
4 comments:
Jon,
Why would I take offence? I never claimed to know enough to understand what you are doing. I have just been making an effort to learn new things.
But when you write as you do in this post, I see a you who impresses me a great deal more than what I saw when I first read one of your posts.
"Lack of communication or understanding" is very common in many areas, not just in failure of others to understand your thesis. A situation in my own life started about a year ago which is riddled with it. Nine months went by before an epiphany showed me one possibility: that I myself had not only failed to communicate but that I had failed to realize that I had failed to communicate.
I have no doubt that you can do whatever you decide needs to be done.
Robert
Hey Jon,
Not to be a downer, but maybe it's not the best time to look for the positive aspects of your thesis as it is while it's currently under scrutiny. You need to see what they're suggesting is NOT working rather than what IS working. When you realize what is NOT working, then you can fix it.
It takes two parties to communicate. In this situation the two parties are you and the panel. You are trying to communicate a competence worthy of graduation by showing them your art. And they in turn are trying to communicate to you what you need to strengthen your competency.
So at the moment your work is communicating to them that you are not ready to graduate. Your work and your thesis are headed in the right direction, but according to the panel, it's missing something. And given your situation, if they say its missing something that's pretty much the word of God.
Here is the "rub" as you say: this miscommunication is not to their disadvantage. Only yours. Their graduation does not depend on whether or not they successfully convey their ideas to you. It is your academic future that hangs in the balance.
Whatever it takes to bridge this communication gap is on your shoulders, Jon. YOU have to talk to them and figure out what more they need from you. Listen to them. Ask questions and do not offer a single opinion, just listen. Take notes. When you get back home, re-evaluate what they said until you understand what they said. Figure out how to incorporate it into your work. Then go back to them the next day and ask more questions and soak in everything else they have to say. If Thacker mentions Lacan then get find five books on the Library on Lacan and scour them. If Jack mentions Chris Burdon, search for as many Chris Burdon images as you can find, and five other artists whose work relates to Burdon's.
This is how you are going to bring your thesis and art up to the standards they are looking for. Is it brown-nosey? Insincere? Drone-like? Uncreative? No, it is simply research. Is it jumping through the hoops to get what you need? Depends on how you look at it. It might feel like hoop-jumping at first. As you keep at it you'll realize that you're actually developing a better understanding of what they're talking about.
Your quote "I can't talk the talk so they feel I can't do the walk" sums it up so perfectly. They want to hear you talk the talk. Right now your work and your thesis are striking them as incongruent. This tells them that you can't walk the walk. Regardless that you feel you can, it is not your opinion that is going to graduate you. You have to convince them. So start talking the talk!
You can do this. Don't make excuses for why your work is good enough and how they just don't understand. Instead figure out what it's going to take so that YOU understand, and for THEM to see your work as GREAT.
One thing, in case it doesn't come through in the comment I just left:
Even while you're pin-pointing the parts of your thesis that need to be beefed up, you can still be really proud of how much you've developed and how far you've come. Even while you're trying to fill in the gaps that the panel perceives, you deserve every bit of confidence that you've been building. The more confidence you have, the more you'll be able to re-evaluate yourself and not be intimidated by areas that need improvement. That flexibility is what's going to help you climb to success.
Once again - hang in there. I know you can overcome this obstacle!
Hey John. I've read your blog off and on, and all I can say about your current situation is that you really have to work hard. I am not sure what you are trying to say with your work through your interpretation of the thesis on the blog (I've yet to actually read your thesis), or through the work. You say that you don't want to be an illustrator or animator, but you want to use imagery based on those styles. You are obviously a fan of the work done by this niche and you have yet to explain why you would like to make this art form accepted by mass culture as serious art form. I think it can be done, but I question why it should be done. Murakami has done an excellent job of this and he also makes it serious by trivializing what he does and making it "commercial". The division between what is commercial (sometimes kitsch) and what is art is a blurry one. Once something becomes popular it becomes kitsch. Somehow some artists have made kitsch into great art. Take Andy Warhol's Campbell soup cans into prime example. It is a form of social commentary that makes you question what I prize as a citizen of human civilization. Mr. Warhol was in a sense making fun of our placement of consumerism on a pedestal, yet ironically makes it iconic to stand the test of time as something beautiful to look at. You mention the fact that you can tie in parts of art history to our contemporary world. This ability is not trivial. The reason you were taught this is not to regurgitate it back to anyone. You use this knowledge as your source material, you analize the problems and as you progress you reduce your problems to a thesis solution.
It is not so much that you solve the problem with your art. You bring awareness to a cause. Maybe the cause is a type of introspection that leads to self awareness, or maybe the cause is a type of social or cultural awakening that all is not well in the world. I feel that your work is not taking in a broader context, but rather a personal one. If this is the case and you decide to go with it, I suggest that you use this subjectivity and challenge others to look within their own subjective selves to find a great and shocking truth about personal growth and maturity.
There are many ways you can solve this problem. I think it's time for you to put the pedal to the metal and really push your concept. How far should you go? That is up to you. You mentioned in another blog that this work is about obsession with anime fandom. Why don't you make it more personal and address the other obssessions that come with it. Things that make you question the nature of compulsion. You have been obsessed with videogames, cyberporn, and tv. These are things that have taken over your productive life. If you brought these things into your dialogue then you really would be saying something bold that isn't just "pretty". I may be harsh in saying this but in art, you are either saying something, or making it look extremely pretty. Pick one or pick both.
I hope to be right about why Warhol made the soup cans, it seems like a good analogy, but I digress. Pushing your work is an important skill. You will never stop improving it even taking vacation time to produce good work. Why does anyone make art? It certainly doesn't pay enough. There are many other things that you put less effort into that pay much more. The reasons are personal, but usually it has to do with the love one has for the medium, the process, and the outcome. Everytime an artist finishes a mass of work, they can look back and see the layers of personal growth that have occurred. Like minded people are incited by this work to grow as well, and to challenge themselves and others. None of it goes without criticism. If an artist is in it for constant praise, either this artist is phenomenal, or deluded. You have quoted Murakami saying he must always be prepared to defend his work. You need to be ready to do those things.
I personally believe you have not dug deep enough. Your work refers to japanese culture in a very light and subjecive manner. It doesn't refer to any of the history of anime, except your current interpretation of it. I would like to see you refer to ancient japanese, and other sources of obsessive behavior. Images that are echoed through history as compulsion and the dangers it has. Even current disasters like the Spitzer case with the compulsive sexual disorder. You could have an amazing impact with a strong dialogue that says a bit of who you are and who everyone is as a human. Anyway, this is a very jumbled response to your blog and I hope you can get something out of it. I also hope to see you at Watkins working on things for dozens of hours.
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