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Wednesday, January 30, 2008
Studio Shots
4 comments:
Anonymous
said...
It's about time you started showing work-in-progress. I feel like you've been talking forever about work and this is the first time you've actually shown any visual progress of it!
So what's going on here? Tell us about these, where they're coming from, where they're going, and what relationship they have among one another besides the fact that they're all ball-point pen on office paper? These are so totally in the style of animation, can you explain the reason for not wanting to animate any of them? Tell us about how these relate to obsession, and how they are relevant to cosplay. Also how do you plan to present these? They each have their own individual personalities - are you sure they deserve to obscure one another by being in a crowd? How might they establish a different relationship with the viewer if one or two of them were drawn out on some nice thick paper with slick india ink and watercolored in, then framed? Or one single one - say Safe Sex Sam - animated to walk back and forth in a large projection on the wall? I keep bringing up animation because of their style - they are not done in an illustrative or graphic style, but in a animated style - they read as animation cells more than anything else. I'm dying to see one in motion.
I have more ideas and questions if you want to discuss them in emails. I don't know which way Jack is encouraging you to go, but it looks like you're still trying to build a conceptual foundation underneath these pieces. I know you probably feel a lot of criticism because these aren't traditional media or driven by high philosophical concepts, but I would like to offer some encouragement that these are ripe with potential content if you narrow your focus and decide what you want to say with them.
Reconsider the animation idea. I swear it's not as daunting as you think.
I'm relieved that I was finally able to see some work. It totally changes the conversation now that I can see specific images. You should post more, more frequently!
Somehow I had in my mind that animation was a dying art, at least in terms of how animation was done fifty years ago. But I see that there are a lot of folk who can do short animations without much trouble, that is, without much technical trouble. The real question seems to be: how does one display it so that its audience is counted in the thousands instead of the dozens.
I do have one question is, do you want to do anything other than animation? If so, do you see animation growing out of the other things or other things growing out of the animation?
Robert, your question "how does one display it so that its audience is counted in the thousands instead of the dozens" reminds me of a cute little website I saw one time called www.youtube.com. The first time I discovered YouTube was about 19 months ago, and I was astonished and delighted by two things: 1) everyday people were producing consistantly entertaining pieces of work that bypassed the whole entertainment industry and corporate "machine" and 2) thousands and thousands of people were watching these productions loyaly. It is like the invention of the camera all over again, giving artistic voice to every person that wants it. Sure it lowers/alters/redefines the "standards" of the entertainment arts, but now - while they are low and undefined - its the perfect time for anyone to do anything they want and be able to pull it off. The viewers determine the standards. The viewers get to seek out and watch whatever they want to watch, and if it's not there, they can make it and post it themselves. You can make an animation of "Safe Sex Sam" and actually put it in front of thousands of people's eyes. What a brilliant time we live in!
How delightful you can be even when making fun of my inability to easily come into the 21st Century. Maybe Wendell was right when he said that was too old.
Now if there is any self-justification, I will posit that I was distinguishing between "artists who actually went to school in order to so distinguish themselves" and "artists who are ordinary folk being creative."
If one goes to school, that costs money and one might have in mind that one would earn money as a result. If one merely creates for fun, money is beside the point.
I love you Jason. Few people treat me so well, by which I mean, remind me to rethink the world in which I live.
4 comments:
It's about time you started showing work-in-progress. I feel like you've been talking forever about work and this is the first time you've actually shown any visual progress of it!
So what's going on here? Tell us about these, where they're coming from, where they're going, and what relationship they have among one another besides the fact that they're all ball-point pen on office paper? These are so totally in the style of animation, can you explain the reason for not wanting to animate any of them? Tell us about how these relate to obsession, and how they are relevant to cosplay. Also how do you plan to present these? They each have their own individual personalities - are you sure they deserve to obscure one another by being in a crowd? How might they establish a different relationship with the viewer if one or two of them were drawn out on some nice thick paper with slick india ink and watercolored in, then framed? Or one single one - say Safe Sex Sam - animated to walk back and forth in a large projection on the wall? I keep bringing up animation because of their style - they are not done in an illustrative or graphic style, but in a animated style - they read as animation cells more than anything else. I'm dying to see one in motion.
I have more ideas and questions if you want to discuss them in emails. I don't know which way Jack is encouraging you to go, but it looks like you're still trying to build a conceptual foundation underneath these pieces. I know you probably feel a lot of criticism because these aren't traditional media or driven by high philosophical concepts, but I would like to offer some encouragement that these are ripe with potential content if you narrow your focus and decide what you want to say with them.
Reconsider the animation idea. I swear it's not as daunting as you think.
I'm relieved that I was finally able to see some work. It totally changes the conversation now that I can see specific images. You should post more, more frequently!
Jon,
Jason has raised enough questions about all this.
I liked the drawing "I AM smiling, damnit..."
Somehow I had in my mind that animation was a dying art, at least in terms of how animation was done fifty years ago. But I see that there are a lot of folk who can do short animations without much trouble, that is, without much technical trouble. The real question seems to be: how does one display it so that its audience is counted in the thousands instead of the dozens.
I do have one question is, do you want to do anything other than animation? If so, do you see animation growing out of the other things or other things growing out of the animation?
Robert
Robert, your question "how does one display it so that its audience is counted in the thousands instead of the dozens" reminds me of a cute little website I saw one time called www.youtube.com. The first time I discovered YouTube was about 19 months ago, and I was astonished and delighted by two things: 1) everyday people were producing consistantly entertaining pieces of work that bypassed the whole entertainment industry and corporate "machine" and 2) thousands and thousands of people were watching these productions loyaly. It is like the invention of the camera all over again, giving artistic voice to every person that wants it. Sure it lowers/alters/redefines the "standards" of the entertainment arts, but now - while they are low and undefined - its the perfect time for anyone to do anything they want and be able to pull it off. The viewers determine the standards. The viewers get to seek out and watch whatever they want to watch, and if it's not there, they can make it and post it themselves. You can make an animation of "Safe Sex Sam" and actually put it in front of thousands of people's eyes. What a brilliant time we live in!
Jason,
How delightful you can be even when making fun of my inability to easily come into the 21st Century. Maybe Wendell was right when he said that was too old.
Now if there is any self-justification, I will posit that I was distinguishing between "artists who actually went to school in order to so distinguish themselves" and "artists who are ordinary folk being creative."
If one goes to school, that costs money and one might have in mind that one would earn money as a result. If one merely creates for fun, money is beside the point.
I love you Jason. Few people treat me so well, by which I mean, remind me to rethink the world in which I live.
Robert
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